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John Cutmore's avatar

Hi OB - sorry to clarify Mr Rebel hadn't commented on ORCH...i was just using his substack as a reference for share ideas.

In the interim the IC has also included ORCH in their recent small caps review "double your money"

Enjoyed the deep dive on Baker Steel. Now a buy back - absolutely flying.

David Tate's avatar

Had a meeting with MARS late last year. Doing a lot of sensible things to segment the estate and improve margins, but it is generally in an area which depends on U.K. consumer spending, which I prefer not to rely on.

Does anyone believe that the shares are worth anywhere near NAV of 125p. The sellside seems not to - Panmure who have strong analytical experience in pubs give it 80p. There is of course a gigantic debt pile here £1.5bn (IFRS included) (from memory) and 5.5x debt/ebitda. So, it’s all about debt reduction for a good while ahead, and no divs anytime soon.

On the debt, a lot of it is securitised, running to 2035. I didn’t look at the detailed terms but it is normally extremely difficult to refi securitised except at high cost.

So it seems to me that it’s a well managed company operating within a tight debt straitjacket, and shareholder returns not a priority. Can’t see a reason to hold something like this.

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